Black conservationists and avian enthusiasts are challenging the widely-held racist stereotype that Black folks and people of color are more suited to urban landscapes than to the fields and forests of the natural world. Tom's guests are Dr. J Drew Lanham, an Alumni Distinguished Professor of Wildlife Ecology at Clemson University. And, Corina Newsome, a field biologist who is pursuing a graduate degree in avian ecology at Georgia Southern University, and a co-founder of 'Black Birder Week'.